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Jason Nyhus

Live from Ecom Forum: Jason Nyhus from Shopware Reveals How Agentic Commerce Transforms B2B Sales

Recorded live from the e-commerce forum in Minneapolis, host Brent Peterson sits down with Jason Nyhus, General Manager of Shopware‘s North American business. This marks Jason’s fourth or fifth appearance on the podcast, highlighting the strong relationship between Talk Commerce and Shopware. The conversation covers Shopware’s approach to AI and agentic commerce, the company’s momentum in the US market, and what makes their community-driven model stand out in an increasingly crowded e-commerce platform landscape.

Key Takeaways

  • Shopware views AI through two lenses: automating routine tasks for e-commerce professionals and implementing agentic commerce to free up B2B sales reps for actual selling
  • Sales representatives currently spend only 25% of their time actually selling, with the remaining 75% consumed by administrative tasks
  • Shopware has grown to several thousand merchants in North America and is now the fastest-growing e-commerce platform in the region
  • The platform’s success stems from three factors: being open source, European clients expanding to North America, and strategic partnerships with agencies
  • Shopware’s business model focuses on being world-class at one thing—commerce software—while letting partners excel at hosting, payments, marketing, and other services
  • The company’s Shoptoberfest event features 10-minute TED Talks by actual merchants sharing real experiences rather than vendor presentations

About Jason Nyhus

Jason Nyhus serves as General Manager at Shopware, where he oversees the company’s North American operations. With extensive experience in the e-commerce space, Jason has witnessed the evolution of digital commerce platforms firsthand. His approach centers on building authentic relationships with merchants and fostering a community-driven ecosystem. Jason’s leadership style emphasizes intimacy and partnership over transactional sales relationships, which has proven instrumental in Shopware’s expansion across North America. Before joining Shopware, he was already connected to the e-commerce community, having met Shopware’s founders, the Hamann Brothers, nearly eight years ago at a Magento unconference in Cologne.

Episode Summary

The conversation begins with Jason explaining Shopware’s perspective on the current AI landscape. He acknowledges that the industry is experiencing what he calls an “AI bubble,” where every company claims to be AI-first. Jason doesn’t mince words about this phenomenon, referring to it as “AI washing.” However, Shopware’s approach differs from the noise.

Jason breaks down Shopware’s AI strategy into two distinct parts. First, the platform uses AI to automate what he describes as “the blue collar work that the white collar people in e-commerce do.” This includes product creation, editing, imagery generation, descriptions, and campaign management. The goal isn’t to replace strategic thinking but to free up professionals to focus on higher-value activities.

The second aspect focuses specifically on B2B commerce through what Shopware calls agentic commerce. Jason provides a striking statistic: sales representatives at manufacturing companies spend approximately 75% of their time on non-selling activities. These activities include corporate mandated tasks that have nothing to do with building relationships or closing deals. “We view Agentic Commerce as a way to really give the sales reps more time to sell by introducing these agents that automate a lot of the blue collar work that they have to do that’s not selling,” Jason explains.

When Brent mentions hearing positive buzz about Shopware finding its footing in the US market, Jason points listeners to independent sources like Built With to verify the platform’s growth. The numbers speak for themselves—several thousand merchants now run on Shopware in North America. Jason attributes this momentum to three specific factors.

First, Shopware’s open source nature allows anyone to install and run the platform for free. This accessibility has led to organic adoption as merchants discover world-class capabilities without upfront costs. Second, European clients who were hesitant to expand to North America now feel confident doing so with Shopware’s established US presence. Third, Jason credits his team and agency partners for launching numerous new stores.

Jason rattles off impressive client names including Uppababy, Dunham Sports, Albany Fasteners, and Boo Ally. He confidently states that Shopware is now the fastest-growing e-commerce platform in North America, though he’s quick to credit the community and ecosystem for this success rather than taking sole credit.

Brent shares a recent conversation he had with the e-commerce manager at Eagle Crusher, who spoke highly of both Shopware’s team and their agency partner. This prompts a discussion about what makes Shopware different from larger platforms where sales representatives often disappear after closing deals, only to resurface during renewal time.

Jason acknowledges that Shopware is “still subscale compared to some of our competitors,” which allows for a level of intimacy that larger companies can’t maintain. He doesn’t view this as a weakness but rather as a strategic advantage. Jason emphasizes that Shopware targets complex use cases rather than straightforward implementations. “There are a lot of other solutions that are really good and great at solving the more kind of straightforward use cases,” he notes. “And so frankly, those aren’t really our customers.”

This complexity requires deep understanding of what makes each brand unique. Jason uses Above the Fray, an agency partner, as an example. They specialize in the American Equipment Manufacturing space and understand the pain points of merchants like Eagle Crusher. This specialized knowledge creates better outcomes for everyone involved.

Jason outlines three requirements for buying Shopware. First, clients must love Shopware’s people. The company invests heavily in hiring individuals that merchants will like and trust. Second, clients must love the product itself. Jason makes it clear that if Shopware isn’t the right fit, they’d rather walk away from the transaction. Third, clients must love Shopware’s partners. “We think if you line those three things up with a partner that we like and trust, our odds of success are very, very high,” Jason states.

Brent recalls meeting the Hamann Brothers nearly eight years ago at a Magento unconference in Cologne. He remembers them showing up, giving a presentation, and answering questions without any sales pitch. This memory illustrates the community-first approach that has become Shopware’s hallmark.

The conversation shifts to Shopware’s community events, particularly Shoptoberfest. Jason explains that there are six primary ways to make money in e-commerce: software, hosting, payments, marketing services, professional services, and app stores. He adds a seventh category for training and certifications. Rather than trying to dominate all seven revenue streams, Shopware focuses on being world-class at one thing—commerce software—and lets partners excel at the rest.

This philosophy fosters mutual dependence and collaboration. Companies can focus on their core competencies, remain competitive on pricing, and deliver better services. Jason credits the inspiration for Shoptoberfest to Stefan Hamann’s visit to the Ecom Forum in Minneapolis a few years ago. Stefan appreciated how the event didn’t take itself too seriously and how Irish Titan, the organizing company, took a back seat to let the community shine.

“Americans love Oktoberfest. Why don’t we create event called Shoptoberfest,” Stefan proposed. Jason calls this one of the best marketing ideas he’s ever heard, especially considering it came from Stefan Hollein, whom he describes as the “self-proclaimed nerd of the business.” Shoptoberfest has now run for two consecutive years with tremendous success.

What makes Shoptoberfest unique is its format. Jason explains that most industry events feature speakers discussing high-level generalities about AI or trends without getting to practical applications. Shoptoberfest flips this model by making merchants the stars. The event features 10-minute TED Talks by eight merchants sharing their lived experiences with change management, AI adoption, and real-world problem solving. “It’s my favorite event of the year,” Jason admits.

Wrapping up the conversation, Jason praises Irish Titan for organizing the Ecom Forum. He notes that Minneapolis is home to major corporations like Best Buy, Target, Medtronic, and 3M, yet nothing really connected the e-commerce community before Irish Titan stepped in. He emphasizes that Irish Titan invests significant money and energy into the event not because it benefits them directly but because it strengthens the community. While Jason prefers the term “community,” he acknowledges that Darin from Irish Titan likes to say “ecosystem.” Regardless of terminology, the spirit remains the same—bringing people together for collective benefit rather than individual gain.

Jason Nyhus’s insights reveal a company that has found success by going against conventional wisdom. Instead of trying to own every aspect of the e-commerce value chain, Shopware focuses on being exceptional at one thing and partnering for the rest. Instead of chasing every potential customer, they target complex use cases where their platform truly shines. Instead of the typical vendor-customer relationship, they build genuine partnerships based on mutual respect and shared success. This approach has transformed Shopware from a European platform trying to break into North America to the fastest-growing e-commerce solution in the region.

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Aaron Sheehan

Why B2B E-commerce Needs Friction with Aaron Sheehan

In a recent episode of Talk Commerce, I had the pleasure of speaking with Aaron Sheehan, Head of Product Marketing at OroCommerce, about the unique challenges and opportunities in B2B e-commerce. Having worked with B2B platforms myself over the years, including early implementations of Oro CRM, I was fascinated by Aaron’s perspective on how B2B commerce fundamentally differs from its B2C counterpart.

Aaron brings a wealth of experience to this conversation, having witnessed the evolution of B2B e-commerce from both the agency side and now as a platform provider. His insights challenge conventional wisdom about what makes e-commerce successful.

The Friction Paradox: Why B2B Buyers Actually Need Obstacles

One of Aaron’s most compelling points centered on friction in the buying process. While B2C e-commerce has obsessed over creating what he colorfully described as a “waterslide greased with Crisco” experience, B2B operates by entirely different rules.

“In B2B, people are buying for their job,” Aaron explained. “They’re buying because they have to buy from you.” This fundamental difference means that friction isn’t just acceptable—it’s often necessary.

In my experience implementing B2B platforms, I’ve seen this firsthand. B2B transactions require:

  • Approval workflows
  • Compliance checks
  • Correct payment methods
  • Proper shipping addresses
  • Quality control steps

Aaron emphasized that B2B commerce is “a team of people buying from a team of people,” which inherently creates complexity that can’t be eliminated—only optimized.

The Hidden Revenue Leak: When “Same as Last Time” Costs Millions

Aaron shared a scenario that resonated deeply with my agency experience: companies with massive catalogs watching customers order the same handful of items month after month.

“I’ve had conversations with companies that have catalogs of 500,000 SKUs, but their customers just buy the same 10 every month,” Aaron noted. “They call the rep and say, ‘Give me the same as I had last time.’ Done.”

This revelation highlights a massive missed opportunity. Traditional phone-based ordering, despite feeling more “consultative,” often becomes simple order-taking. E-commerce platforms change this dynamic by:

  • Surfacing entire product categories customers didn’t know existed
  • Implementing “people who bought this also bought that” recommendations
  • Presenting cross-sell opportunities at the perfect moment

The result? Same customers, same frequency, but dramatically higher average order values.

The Sales Rep Revolution: From Order Taker to Revenue Generator

A common fear I’ve encountered when implementing B2B e-commerce is that technology will replace sales representatives. Aaron’s perspective flips this concern entirely.

“Most companies have cottoned to the idea that their sales team needs to be compensated on e-commerce orders,” Aaron explained. Rather than threatening sales jobs, e-commerce makes sales reps more valuable by eliminating manual order entry and freeing them for higher-value activities.

I’ve witnessed this transformation myself. Sales reps who once spent evenings transcribing orders from briefcases into ERPs now focus on relationship building and consultative selling. The technology handles the routine, while humans handle the complex.

The B2B E-commerce Wave Has Finally Broken

Perhaps the most exciting insight Aaron shared was about the fundamental shift happening in B2B commerce conversations.

“The conversations we’re having now at Oro are very different from the conversations we were having two or three years ago,” Aaron observed. “We’re not having to prove the value of e-commerce to companies as much anymore. It’s a given.”

This shift represents years of market education finally paying off. Companies now assume value exists in digital commerce, CRM integration, and automation. The question has evolved from “Should we?” to “How fast can we?”

The Platform Evolution: From Magento to Modern B2B Solutions

Our conversation naturally touched on the Magento ecosystem, given both our backgrounds. Aaron’s journey from working with early Oro CRM partnerships to his current role illustrates the maturation of B2B commerce platforms.

Aaron praised teams like Hyvä for “saving Magento” by addressing longstanding frontend challenges, while positioning OroCommerce as the “front end to your ERP” without per-seat licensing costs that traditional ERPs impose.

AI and the Future of B2B Commerce

While discussing AI’s role in B2B commerce, Aaron struck a realistic tone about agentic buying. Trust remains paramount in B2B transactions where wrong purchases can shut down operations.

“AI still has a tendency to hallucinate when confronted with incomplete information,” Aaron noted. “If I don’t get the right products in the right quantities for the right application, I go out of business.”

However, AI excels as a UX layer, helping buyers navigate complex catalogs and find relevant products faster than traditional browsing methods.

The Cultural Component: Why Humans Still Matter

Aaron made a profound observation about commerce being inherently cultural. Even in efficiency-focused B2B environments, the human element remains crucial for trust-building and relationship maintenance.

“Commerce is culture,” Aaron referenced from Future Commerce. “We like shopping. We engage in commerce. Even in B2B, there’s usually a point where that buyer wants to pick up the phone and talk to someone.”

This insight reinforces that successful B2B e-commerce isn’t about replacing human interaction—it’s about optimizing when and how those interactions occur.

Embracing B2B Commerce Complexity

My conversation with Aaron Sheehan reinforced that B2B e-commerce success requires embracing, not eliminating, complexity. The platforms that thrive understand that B2B buyers need sophisticated workflows, approval processes, and integration capabilities that go far beyond simple product catalogs.

As Aaron noted, the wave in B2B e-commerce has finally broken. Companies are ready to invest in digital transformation, and the platforms that can handle true B2B complexity while delivering modern user experiences will capture this opportunity.

For anyone considering B2B e-commerce implementation, Aaron’s insights provide a roadmap: focus on your specific industry, embrace necessary friction, empower your sales team, and remember that at the end of the day, B2B commerce is still fundamentally about relationships between people.

Listen to the full Talk Commerce episode with Aaron Sheehan to dive deeper into these B2B e-commerce strategies and learn more about OroCommerce’s approach to solving complex B2B challenges.

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