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Jason Nyhus

Live from Ecom Forum: Jason Nyhus from Shopware Reveals How Agentic Commerce Transforms B2B Sales

Recorded live from the e-commerce forum in Minneapolis, host Brent Peterson sits down with Jason Nyhus, General Manager of Shopware‘s North American business. This marks Jason’s fourth or fifth appearance on the podcast, highlighting the strong relationship between Talk Commerce and Shopware. The conversation covers Shopware’s approach to AI and agentic commerce, the company’s momentum in the US market, and what makes their community-driven model stand out in an increasingly crowded e-commerce platform landscape.

Key Takeaways

  • Shopware views AI through two lenses: automating routine tasks for e-commerce professionals and implementing agentic commerce to free up B2B sales reps for actual selling
  • Sales representatives currently spend only 25% of their time actually selling, with the remaining 75% consumed by administrative tasks
  • Shopware has grown to several thousand merchants in North America and is now the fastest-growing e-commerce platform in the region
  • The platform’s success stems from three factors: being open source, European clients expanding to North America, and strategic partnerships with agencies
  • Shopware’s business model focuses on being world-class at one thing—commerce software—while letting partners excel at hosting, payments, marketing, and other services
  • The company’s Shoptoberfest event features 10-minute TED Talks by actual merchants sharing real experiences rather than vendor presentations

About Jason Nyhus

Jason Nyhus serves as General Manager at Shopware, where he oversees the company’s North American operations. With extensive experience in the e-commerce space, Jason has witnessed the evolution of digital commerce platforms firsthand. His approach centers on building authentic relationships with merchants and fostering a community-driven ecosystem. Jason’s leadership style emphasizes intimacy and partnership over transactional sales relationships, which has proven instrumental in Shopware’s expansion across North America. Before joining Shopware, he was already connected to the e-commerce community, having met Shopware’s founders, the Hamann Brothers, nearly eight years ago at a Magento unconference in Cologne.

Episode Summary

The conversation begins with Jason explaining Shopware’s perspective on the current AI landscape. He acknowledges that the industry is experiencing what he calls an “AI bubble,” where every company claims to be AI-first. Jason doesn’t mince words about this phenomenon, referring to it as “AI washing.” However, Shopware’s approach differs from the noise.

Jason breaks down Shopware’s AI strategy into two distinct parts. First, the platform uses AI to automate what he describes as “the blue collar work that the white collar people in e-commerce do.” This includes product creation, editing, imagery generation, descriptions, and campaign management. The goal isn’t to replace strategic thinking but to free up professionals to focus on higher-value activities.

The second aspect focuses specifically on B2B commerce through what Shopware calls agentic commerce. Jason provides a striking statistic: sales representatives at manufacturing companies spend approximately 75% of their time on non-selling activities. These activities include corporate mandated tasks that have nothing to do with building relationships or closing deals. “We view Agentic Commerce as a way to really give the sales reps more time to sell by introducing these agents that automate a lot of the blue collar work that they have to do that’s not selling,” Jason explains.

When Brent mentions hearing positive buzz about Shopware finding its footing in the US market, Jason points listeners to independent sources like Built With to verify the platform’s growth. The numbers speak for themselves—several thousand merchants now run on Shopware in North America. Jason attributes this momentum to three specific factors.

First, Shopware’s open source nature allows anyone to install and run the platform for free. This accessibility has led to organic adoption as merchants discover world-class capabilities without upfront costs. Second, European clients who were hesitant to expand to North America now feel confident doing so with Shopware’s established US presence. Third, Jason credits his team and agency partners for launching numerous new stores.

Jason rattles off impressive client names including Uppababy, Dunham Sports, Albany Fasteners, and Boo Ally. He confidently states that Shopware is now the fastest-growing e-commerce platform in North America, though he’s quick to credit the community and ecosystem for this success rather than taking sole credit.

Brent shares a recent conversation he had with the e-commerce manager at Eagle Crusher, who spoke highly of both Shopware’s team and their agency partner. This prompts a discussion about what makes Shopware different from larger platforms where sales representatives often disappear after closing deals, only to resurface during renewal time.

Jason acknowledges that Shopware is “still subscale compared to some of our competitors,” which allows for a level of intimacy that larger companies can’t maintain. He doesn’t view this as a weakness but rather as a strategic advantage. Jason emphasizes that Shopware targets complex use cases rather than straightforward implementations. “There are a lot of other solutions that are really good and great at solving the more kind of straightforward use cases,” he notes. “And so frankly, those aren’t really our customers.”

This complexity requires deep understanding of what makes each brand unique. Jason uses Above the Fray, an agency partner, as an example. They specialize in the American Equipment Manufacturing space and understand the pain points of merchants like Eagle Crusher. This specialized knowledge creates better outcomes for everyone involved.

Jason outlines three requirements for buying Shopware. First, clients must love Shopware’s people. The company invests heavily in hiring individuals that merchants will like and trust. Second, clients must love the product itself. Jason makes it clear that if Shopware isn’t the right fit, they’d rather walk away from the transaction. Third, clients must love Shopware’s partners. “We think if you line those three things up with a partner that we like and trust, our odds of success are very, very high,” Jason states.

Brent recalls meeting the Hamann Brothers nearly eight years ago at a Magento unconference in Cologne. He remembers them showing up, giving a presentation, and answering questions without any sales pitch. This memory illustrates the community-first approach that has become Shopware’s hallmark.

The conversation shifts to Shopware’s community events, particularly Shoptoberfest. Jason explains that there are six primary ways to make money in e-commerce: software, hosting, payments, marketing services, professional services, and app stores. He adds a seventh category for training and certifications. Rather than trying to dominate all seven revenue streams, Shopware focuses on being world-class at one thing—commerce software—and lets partners excel at the rest.

This philosophy fosters mutual dependence and collaboration. Companies can focus on their core competencies, remain competitive on pricing, and deliver better services. Jason credits the inspiration for Shoptoberfest to Stefan Hamann’s visit to the Ecom Forum in Minneapolis a few years ago. Stefan appreciated how the event didn’t take itself too seriously and how Irish Titan, the organizing company, took a back seat to let the community shine.

“Americans love Oktoberfest. Why don’t we create event called Shoptoberfest,” Stefan proposed. Jason calls this one of the best marketing ideas he’s ever heard, especially considering it came from Stefan Hollein, whom he describes as the “self-proclaimed nerd of the business.” Shoptoberfest has now run for two consecutive years with tremendous success.

What makes Shoptoberfest unique is its format. Jason explains that most industry events feature speakers discussing high-level generalities about AI or trends without getting to practical applications. Shoptoberfest flips this model by making merchants the stars. The event features 10-minute TED Talks by eight merchants sharing their lived experiences with change management, AI adoption, and real-world problem solving. “It’s my favorite event of the year,” Jason admits.

Wrapping up the conversation, Jason praises Irish Titan for organizing the Ecom Forum. He notes that Minneapolis is home to major corporations like Best Buy, Target, Medtronic, and 3M, yet nothing really connected the e-commerce community before Irish Titan stepped in. He emphasizes that Irish Titan invests significant money and energy into the event not because it benefits them directly but because it strengthens the community. While Jason prefers the term “community,” he acknowledges that Darin from Irish Titan likes to say “ecosystem.” Regardless of terminology, the spirit remains the same—bringing people together for collective benefit rather than individual gain.

Jason Nyhus’s insights reveal a company that has found success by going against conventional wisdom. Instead of trying to own every aspect of the e-commerce value chain, Shopware focuses on being exceptional at one thing and partnering for the rest. Instead of chasing every potential customer, they target complex use cases where their platform truly shines. Instead of the typical vendor-customer relationship, they build genuine partnerships based on mutual respect and shared success. This approach has transformed Shopware from a European platform trying to break into North America to the fastest-growing e-commerce solution in the region.

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Xavier Rio

Transforming B2B Commerce Through 3M’s Digital Shelf Revolution with Xavier Rio

In this enlightening episode of Talk Commerce, host Brent Peterson sits down with Xavier Rio, Global B2B E-commerce Manager for 3M‘s Safety and Industrial Business Group. Based near Paris, France, Xavier brings his extensive experience in digital transformation and unique perspective on global e-commerce strategies. The conversation explores how 3M, a global science and technology powerhouse, is revolutionizing B2B commerce through innovative digital solutions.

Key Takeaways

  • 3M’s indirect e-commerce strategy operates primarily through partner platforms and marketplaces served by distributors
  • The company’s digital shelf enhancement program empowers product experiences through web crawler insights and an always-on model
  • Sustainability initiatives are driving innovation, exemplified by the new solar-powered safety communication helmet
  • B2B commerce is evolving rapidly with the influence of younger generations in decision-making roles
  • AI implementation focuses on practical applications that solve specific business challenges
  • Personalization in B2B requires multiple layers of customization across segments, personas, and individuals

About Xavier Rio

Xavier Rio serves as the Global E-commerce Manager in 3M’s Safety and Industrial Business Group, where he leads various global e-commerce projects and programs across multiple regions including the US, Europe, Asia, GCE, and Latin America. His role focuses on generating incremental sales through e-commerce partner platforms. A former rugby player, Xavier brings the collaborative and team-oriented principles from his sporting background into his professional work, emphasizing the importance of teamwork in digital transformation initiatives.

Detailed Episode Summary

The conversation begins with Xavier outlining 3M’s position as a global science and technology company operating through three main business groups: safety industrial, transportation electronics, and consumer. He explains that 3M’s e-commerce strategy primarily relies on channel partners, creating an indirect go-to-market approach through established platforms and marketplaces.

A significant focus of the discussion centers on 3M’s digital shelf concept, which Xavier describes as an end-to-end process leveraging product content insights from web crawlers to optimize content delivery and enhance product discoverability. This system enables better product experiences through their Product Experience Management (PXM) system.

The conversation shifts to the evolution of B2B commerce, with Xavier highlighting how younger generations are driving rapid change in business practices. He emphasizes that B2B transactions now require understanding multiple roles within organizations and how different age groups interact with digital platforms.

Innovation remains at the forefront of 3M’s strategy, as evidenced by their recent launch of a solar-powered safety communication helmet – the first of its kind globally. This product exemplifies 3M’s commitment to combining sustainability with practical innovation.

Personal Commentary and Analysis

The interview reveals a fascinating glimpse into how traditional manufacturing giants like 3M are adapting to the digital age. The company’s approach to digital transformation is particularly noteworthy for its balanced consideration of technology, people, and processes. Rather than pursuing technology for its own sake, 3M’s strategy focuses on solving specific business challenges and enhancing customer experience.

Memorable Quotes

“Innovation is equal to invention and commercialization. We could have great invention, but if we are not able to commercialize, it won’t be an innovation.” – Xavier Rio

“E-commerce is not the end state. Really the end state is omni-channel contract commerce.” – Xavier Rio

“We need to make AI right, efficiently… every time we first raise the question, not raise the AI for AI, but what is really the problem that we want to solve?” – Xavier Rio

Engaging the Audience

To learn more about 3M’s innovative approach to B2B e-commerce and digital transformation, listeners can tune in to the full episode of Talk Commerce. The conversation offers valuable insights for professionals interested in digital commerce, technology integration, and global business strategies. Follow Talk Commerce on your preferred podcast platform to stay updated on the latest developments in e-commerce and digital transformation.

Final Thoughts: The discussion with Xavier Rio illuminates how 3M is navigating the complex landscape of global B2B e-commerce while maintaining its commitment to innovation and sustainability. As digital transformation continues to reshape business operations, 3M’s strategic approach to the digital shelf serves as a compelling model for other organizations seeking to enhance their e-commerce capabilities.

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[Live from ShopTalk] The Struggle of Mid-Market Merchants in E-Commerce with Jason Nyhus

Defining the Mid-Market Merchant

Jason eloquently described the mid-market merchant as a business that doesn’t quite fit into the standard SMB or enterprise categories. These merchants often have complex use cases and unique needs that aren’t easily met by one-size-fits-all solutions. As someone who has worked with numerous mid-market businesses, I can attest to the importance of finding a platform that offers the flexibility and customization required to address their specific challenges.

One of the most significant issues mid-market merchants face is the dominance of big software companies in the e-commerce space. As Jason pointed out, these companies often prioritize their own profit motives over the needs of individual merchants. The result? A homogenized e-commerce experience that lacks the differentiation and customization many mid-market brands rely on to stand out in a crowded market.

I’ve seen firsthand how frustrating it can be for merchants to feel forced into a box, unable to tailor their online presence to their unique brand identity. This is where open-source platforms like Shopware shine, offering the freedom and flexibility to create truly distinctive e-commerce experiences.

The Importance of Adaptability and Customization

As the e-commerce landscape continues to evolve at a breakneck pace, adaptability has become a crucial factor in the success of mid-market merchants. Jason emphasized the significance of choosing a platform that allows for easy customization and integration with emerging technologies like AI.

In my experience, the ability to modify and own your code is a game-changer for mid-market businesses. It allows them to create tailored experiences that align with their brand and business processes, rather than being constrained by the limitations of a rigid, one-size-fits-all solution.

Final Thoughts

My conversation with Jason Nyhus at Shop Talk was an eye-opening exploration of the challenges and opportunities facing mid-market merchants in the e-commerce world. By understanding the unique needs of these businesses and embracing adaptable, customizable solutions, we can help them navigate the complexities of online retail and thrive in an increasingly competitive landscape.

If you’d like to learn more about Jason’s insights and the innovative solutions Shopware offers for mid-market merchants, be sure to check out the full podcast episode. And as always, keep the conversation going by sharing your own experiences and strategies for success in the comments below.

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The evolving expectations of B2B buyers: A digital transformation imperative with Arno Ham

Hello everyone, I’m Brent, your host, and today I’m excited to share with you an insightful conversation I had with Arno Ham, the CTO of Sana Commerce. Arno, with his extensive experience in technology and a deep passion for B2B e-commerce, shared some fascinating insights into the world of B2B commerce, the challenges it faces, and the solutions Sana Commerce provides.

Meet Arno Ham: The Tech Enthusiast

Arno Ham, with over 20 years of experience in technology and a background in computer science, is a man who lives and breathes technology. As the CTO of Sana Commerce, he oversees everything tech-related, from product management and development to professional services and customer service.

But Arno is not just about work. He’s a family man who loves spending time with his wife and three daughters. He enjoys running, cooking, and outdoor activities. He also has a penchant for visiting museums and indulging in good food.

The World of B2B E-commerce

Our conversation took a humorous turn when I asked Arno if a joke should remain free or if someone could charge for it in the future. Arno, with a chuckle, suggested paying for it, emphasizing that nothing comes for free in this world.

On a more serious note, we delved into the world of B2B commerce. I recalled a previous interview with Michelle, the CEO of Asana, and highlighted the growing importance of B2B commerce. Arno then took us through the backbone of Sana Commerce and what they are currently promoting.

The Challenges and Solutions in B2B Commerce

Arno shed light on the challenges of pricing in B2B and the complexity that arises when dealing with a large number of customers and products. He explained that the explosion of data and the need for rapid changes in the business world make it difficult to synchronize pricing information and ensure accurate stock levels.

Arno emphasized the importance of maintaining good relationships with customers and the need for agreements that go beyond just pricing. He also highlighted the changing expectations of younger business owners who want a seamless digital experience in B2B, similar to what they experience in B2C.

Interestingly, Arno mentioned that 40% of B2B transactions still happen offline, but there is a growing demand for digitization. He discussed the challenges faced by older generations in adapting to digital transformation and the need to transfer their knowledge into a digital experience.

Sana Commerce: Bridging the Gap in B2B E-commerce

Arno then introduced us to Sana Commerce’s role in this changing landscape. While Sana provides a great frontend solution, they also integrate with other frontends and ERP systems. Arno emphasized the importance of specialized vendors for specific needs, such as product information management systems. He mentioned that Sana integrates with various systems like CRM, customer data platforms, and product information management systems.

Arno’s Advice for the Future of B2B

As we moved towards the end of our conversation, I asked Arno for advice on digitization and moving forward in the B2B space. Arno suggested starting conversations with B2B buyers and understanding their needs, especially as younger generations prefer digital solutions. He advised forming a multidisciplinary team within the organization to drive digital transformation holistically. Arno also highlighted the importance of aligning incentives for the sales team to embrace the digital shift.

Wrapping Up

Arno concluded by plugging Sana Commerce as a solution for businesses looking to start or improve their B2B e-commerce storefronts. He mentioned that Sana integrates with Microsoft Dynamics and SAP, and invited listeners to check out his podcast, “B2B Waves.”

This conversation with Arno Ham was a deep dive into the world of B2B e-commerce, its challenges, and the solutions that Sana Commerce provides. It was a pleasure to have him on the show, and I hope you found his insights as valuable as I did.

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